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 Post subject: arthas
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:54 pm 
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Just some interesting pieces of data i found:
1. Having 2 Raging Spirits still up during the transition from phase 1 to 2 shouldn't be a problem. Hopefully, one of the two raging spirits are fairly low - you'll always have at least 1 near full health since the third raging spirit spawns near the tail end of the transition phase.

All you need to remember is that Valkyr and Defile handling comes first. So have your raid clumped on Arthas, and the OT positioned outside the raid, at the edge of the circle. It's better to play it safe and not risk any silences on the raid at any point.

After the raid takes care of the first Valkyr and the first Defile, the raid should collapse for Valkyr; melee sits on Lich King while ranged cleans up the remaining Raging Spirits. When the Valkyr spawns, get a stun on it quickly - and then immediately spread for Defile. The first stun should actually be used to staple the Valkyr in place, so that you give the raid time to spread out for Defile - after Defile, you can recollapse and get back to DPSing the Valkyr - after which you spread back out for Defile. The tempo everyone will eventually get is: Collapse for Valkyr, once the stun is called Spread out for Defile, once Defile is spawned get on Valkyr (Melee collapses on Valkyr at this point) and after Valkyr is killed Spread out.

2. The primary reason why you need the Raging Spirits down ASAP is because you need the off tank free asap to help deal with Soul Reaper. If you have enough outside cds and an MT that can eat 2 Soul Reapers back to back using only his own cds, you shouldn't over stress getting the Raging Spirits down. Your focus should ALWAYS be on the Valkyrs and the Defiles - those are always your first priorities. This is why Prot Paladins are the preferred tanks for a first kill, because they can handle 2 or sometimes even 3 back to back Soul Reapers using just their own abilities - it allows the dps to concentrate more on Valkyrs and Defiles than getting the adds down and clean up the adds at a much more forgiving pace.

3. IMO, your choice in OTs is just as important as your choice in MTs. A warrior OT can trivialize aspects of this fight just as much as a paladin MT. Safeguard + glyph of Intervene for every Soul Reaper almost guarantees your MT will never get gibb'd and will save his AD proc for when the raid gets badly positioned where tank healers are seperated from the MT because of a sloppy defile. Vigilance on the MT also makes P3 ridiculously easy - the OT simply stands outside of raid and will reliably soak 3-4 vile spirits just by himself every wave; allowing your ranged dps to essentially kill just 1 vile spirit each and then get back to dpsing Arthas.

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 Post subject: Re: arthas
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:18 pm 
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Looks like I'm going to have to change my dps offspec to an offtank offspec.

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 Post subject: Re: arthas
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:02 pm 
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Well, you never use that DPS spec anyway. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: arthas
PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:00 pm 
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True. The only time I've dpsed in the last 6 months is on the Sarth 3D kill.

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 Post subject: Re: arthas
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:00 pm 
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I think we're close, we just need a bit of practice during that second phase running away from the defile and crushing that Valkyrie. It's typically not that much fun to wipe like that but I must say i had fun last night

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 Post subject: Re: arthas
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:28 am 
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It was a lot of fun. For the valkyrs, we should get a bit more organized in our controlling. Stunning a stunned valkyr doesn't help us, neither does concussive striking a stunned valkyr. We should say that if we have 3 paladins, every valkyr should get a Hammer of Justice. I'm going to respec into Improved Hammer so I have a shorter cooldown, and I'll end up with it available for every valkyr. Once we find a valkyr, I can call it, and we don't waste other slowing debuffs.


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 Post subject: Re: arthas
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:51 pm 
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I think rotating stuns/snares is good idea. Next time we'll try to have a plan for that.

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